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The "Software/Technology" category is too broad, for me. I'd like to see a category for hacker, pirate, cracks, and warez sites, software that is illegal but not actually malware intended to hijack my system.
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Comments
"software that is illegal"
Hacking software is not illegal per sé, nor is hacking illegal per sé. I use them for Security purposes, so do many others.
Even certain cracks or pirate sites may or may not be illegal, it really depends on your country.
@2insite
they r not illegal in certain countries but still illegal internationally, rite?
please make better distinctions. hacking is not cracking
I think anyone who'd run ettercap, nmap, reaper, etc ... would already have it on a USB thumbdrive. Have good GPOs, quality switches and routers, a good anti-virus app, and all will be fine.
PLEASE ADD! Also a software download category in general to block screensaver downloads, weather program downloads, wallpaper downloader downloads, and the rest of the nighmares of system admins.
its too general to block tech news, dell, hp, apple, etc.
I blocked *.microsoft.com at work - should have seen the stink that caused...:-)
written by jjpcexpert 439 days ago
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moldor, Yes, it infected your PC's by not being able to update.
written by jjpcexpert 439 days ago
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mike240se you should NOT and I mean NOT block:
Dell ; Tech News ; HP / COMPAQ ; Apple ; etcetera unless you do not own a PC unit from anyone you are talking about.....
spam/fraud might want its own subcategories: fraudsters, spammers (ie. the domains doing the spamming), spam sites (the sites promoted by spam). This, since some of us need to be able to research the spammers in order to report them, and if their sites are blocked that makes like difficult.
@ jjpcexpert
you SHOULD build a better mousetrap.. yourself. A custom block message for those sites would be helpful: "Do not waste money on this pilf. This system cannot address enough ram to function correctly"
written by stalinvlad 609 days ago
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How about a general NotForWork tag?
Should cover pron, haxs, malware phish and all the other stuff admins should take care of
Malware should be covered by phishing, but I guess these guys don't keep everyone up to speed on that
written by Homer T. Nacho Cheese 497 days ago
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And who would identify what is and is not for work? I could work for a news company, so anything news and sports would be work-related for me, but not for others.
written by oregonnerd 488 days ago
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No! Make it simpler, like with the end-users who won't let sysadmins do updates and such. Shoot them, and the problem doesn't recur; any tags can be written on stickies and attached to their foreheads.
--Glenn
[I got my wife's old 32-bit computer--I'm disabled now--it had 2093 items in the recycle bin. Over 2k. At 2.8 gig it took something like half an hour to clear the cache. Shoot them. Just shoot them, and put them out of our misery.)
Great idea, but lets call it 'NSFW' (Not Suitable For Work).
There is only one small flaw in this excellent idea. For example, I use www.rapidshare.com to upload and transfer large files to colleagues in both Australia and overseas when working on large projects.
This is a well-known site for hosting pirated software, but still has legitimate uses as well.
Agreed 100% I use RS for a lot of image files all clean and legal
I also agree 100%, some Internet sites are just too dynamic to tag accurately. Even TPB is used for some legitimate and legal uses.
I am in favor of adding the category, but I am opposed to the use of "hacker" for any reason. It is a contranym--a word which has opposite meanings, therefore it is ambiguous.
I wrote up the issue more thoroughly here: http://jackson.io/hacker.html
the term HACKER is used to describe a person/s trying to gain access via stealth to a PC or Network either for legal or neferious actions but that wasn't what the original terminolgy was used for back in the day when computing was first starting out it was a term used to describe what a programer did to fix a bug or to get his/her programe to work
written by trojanhorse 597 days ago
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scamardometal,
the best option you can have at your disposal at very minimal deployment cost for such needs of your to have granular access control of your network is to get Astaro security gateway. Just get one old beaten up p4 and get a free copy of ASG from their site (home liscence upto so many concurrent connection is free with updates) and configure it the way you want. Believe me or not, you would be surprise to know what ASG has to offer even for free.
Sorry, I didn't vote for it yet, as it too vague and controversial to implement.
for those who don't understand the difference between hackers and crackers:
http://www.catb.org/hacker-emblem/
especially the "Who should not use this emblem?" paragraph
the idea is clearly about crackers
I don't think OpenDNS should get too granular with its categories.
As others have suggested, create a "Malware" category and include cracker sites in there. Malware (Malicious Software)is anything that can cause damage/problems to your system and done without your consent. Here is wiki on Malware:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware
I see many members voted for this. Hopefully a "Malware" category will be developed so we can submit sites for it.
I would exercise extreme caution when visiting any site in this category as you don't know what you can get. I think it is one of the reasons why OpenDNS has not opened the category... fear of members getting infected with things. Quite possibly causing severe/irreversable damage too.
Perhaps one solution is enable members to submit sites but not be able to visit them through OpenDNS tagging. You can, of course, go to any site via your address bar... at your own risk.
Again, this would be a great category to have and should be used by everyone. I think it's just a matter of how to handle verify them safely in OpenDNS.
Ideally, one of the categories would be based on this:
http://malwaredomains.com
Excellent and up to date resource for nasties.
written by OpenDNS User 542 days ago
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This is somewhat dangerous ground however.
I just started using opendns to block certain categories for users of our cafe wireless.
I'm also considering using it for our internal network.
For cafe users, my intended outcome is merely to block those sites with zero legit value (phishing sites) and those which create a potential liability for us (p2p sites.)
For internal users who have more direct access, I might want to block the sites which do drive-by installs, browser hijackers etc, while I'm inclined to leave the cafe users mostly to their own devices. I just don't have time to dialog with hundreds of public wifi users to explain why a site was blocked, nor do I want to set up an expectation that what gets resolved is necessarily safe.
So, lumping to much into a 'malware' category would mean that I couldn't use it for the cafe users.
Joe Sixpack may well have a legit use for a password revealer or port scanner. I wouldn't want those to be blocked along with sites like consumergain.com. And really, I don't want to start down the slippery slope for public users.
I think with any category that steps on and around toes like the one proposed here, there needs to be stated very explicitly what the intent is of the category.
What does the OP want to block - and why?
The OP was pretty clear that he wanted to see a category that breaks out sites that support software he doesn't want to see distributed, as opposed to actual malware sites.
That sort of list I would vote for, but there are way too many people voting for this thinking it's something else, or wanting it to be.
I'd also vote for a malware category that would include browser hijackers, advertising malware and botnet trojan downloaders, though that's a much harder target to hit, since real malware domains jump around, as opposed to porn and gambling sites which have a vested interest in maintaining the same domain to encourage repeat traffic (most people go to porn sites voluntarily - not by accident.)
As I have said many times before, let's put all possible damaging stuff (trojans, viruses, hijackers, root kits, keyloggers, drive-by downloads, dialers, etc...) into one single category... Malware.
This will make it easier on everyone, from submissions to blocking. Just block one category and everything is covered.
Presently there is no Malware category, so when I come across something which may be harmful I put it into Adware.
Adware is another category I think everyone should block. If you have a reason why you do not have it blocked, I would like to know.
this is popular enough, we should have this category by now. software/technology is WAY TO WIDE! That could be broken down into so many categories.
written by Homer T. Nacho Cheese 497 days ago
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Many of the web filtering products that you PAY for have Warez as a category, I cannot see why OpenDNS does not.
Completely agree this should be a category.
I need to change my mind and amend this last post.
There needs to be a warez category. People are tagging such sites as "malware" instead of software.
Yes, I'm talking about you, Mike.
*grumble*
Granted, sometimes you can get malware from infected warez, but that's not the overall purpose/theme of warez sites.
Improper tagging sucks. It really pollutes the database. I've voted "no" about 80 percent of the time. Pretty sad.
The next time I see someone tagging martial-arts as "weapons" it'll be too soon.
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BMO
Hackers are not bad. Remember hackers are coders and crackers (some are pro, most are script kiddies) are coders who break into systems or attempt to break into systems. Warez sites are pretty obvious. But the exists some ambiguity between cracking and security sites (white hat versus black hat). If known a warez site has pornography, spyware or adware, or malicious scripting, then this site would already be covered. Symantec AV already messed with some of my security tools thinking their were hackers tools. I had to place exceptions on every one.
Ha your def. is funny hackers. See there are 3 types of so called internet security specialist. White-Hat, Black-Hat, and Grey-Hat Hackers. Yea im a white-Hat hat so this is funny. Btw crackers are not be even thought of as hackers.
I'd love to see a malware category. It could be linked to some of the malware domain lists that are already available.
written by drmacinyasha 411 days ago
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How about just a category for malware/hack sites that are known to attack your computer?
written by kyro_anubis 400 days ago
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i agree! in order to learn to protect yourself and others
one must learn what it is he or she needs protection from and how it works.
although i strongly feel the terms "HACKER" "HACKING" "HACKS" etc.. etc.. should NOT be associated with words like "MALWARE" "ILLEGAL" "VIRUSES" and so on.
sometimes its easier to understand and learn what i like to call "proper nEtiquette" by learning the not so..
but either way its an important topic and no one can afford to be "misinformed"
at least thats my opinion
the term hackers was thought of by Hollywood if no one knew, and if people would actually look up the term internet security specialist it would give the proper def.
I don't think that OpenDNS should start "mothering" everyone. Definition of legality of software should be left to the user to decide. Besides, with all the differing legal definitions which vary with every country(not to mention companies!), things could get very complicated if OpenDns tries to accommodate everyone.
I'll support a malware section but OpenDNS should be very
careful about "false positives". There're too many antivirus and malware programs which stumble over this. We don't need anymore of such false alarms.
written by steveliddle 350 days ago
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interested in not having malware on my machine, but I am wanting to look at torrent sites, by blocking everything that might be bad is not a good idea
eg
http://astalavista.box.sk/ is a securities search engine, there is good and bad stuff on it
written by sparky222b 324 days ago
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I'm a big fan of this one.
There's a big difference between Softpedia and PhazeDDL, eh?
written by edavid3001 322 days ago
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I'm a bit confused. My users will stumble upon sites such as andvanced-anti-virus-scan com which has the Kryptik trojan on it or XP antivirus virus or Antivirus 2008/2009 virus. There seems to be hundreds of domains added daily with hundreds of UPN (?) variants. My antivirus vendors might take up to a month to add detection for the variants per Virus Total.
So where is the category to add them? I can't add these to anything but Adware. While they do have pop ups, they are truly viruses aka Malware. Why can't I add them to that category? Phishbank is for e-mails. These are Google searches.
Beyond this, I have noticed that some such domains are listed for tagging, have existed for many months, but are not tagged due to not enough votes.
Perhaps we could be allowed to submit a site as a virus/malware site to OpenDNS and some how expedite the process of getting approved? Many of these sites have the same content on them "Antivirus 2009" and analysis of the Javascript on the site would reveal them forcing an .exe download. Usually the same pattern, something a regex can detect. My LAN is well protected, however my remote Latops could use the extra OpenDNS protection.
Just ideas.
written by monkeyblack 317 days ago
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Hackers should get its own category ;)
Actually, for IT & Schools, I'd think a filter on Hacking related sites would be needed, since the majority of the ones in the states use Windows based PC's, which we all know are garbage... so it will save the IT people a lot of headaches. Make this into a category but as always, give the end user / IT person the ability to check on and off this box. As a Internet Security person, I have to keep up with Hacking related sites, as well as security related tools which would likely fall into that category.
hmmm... but I looked into this, warez sites just index the files not host them. Thus not making them illegal.
written by snotbottom 275 days ago
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True... but if you can't access the links, then you can't download the files.
Hacking has nothing to do with warez.
A hacker is someone who can create innovative solutions to problems using creativity. A cracker is somebody who deliberately intrudes, harms or defaces in an electronic environment.
Really , because the term cracking came from the knowledge of reverse engineering, which is the tech term for aka decompiling a file back to source code to basically change it to how you want it to lets say make a trial game to program into the full version or to remove a timer.
I think a malware category would be in order, or combine and make adware / malware.
May be we change it Crack/warez Category IMO.
Hope this will be approved soon.
Isn't there already a filesharing category?
So if its warez just class them as filesharing...
they are not really that legal only that they highlighted it as illegal becase they dont want to be overpowered or something like that so to say...
written by peterdynip 151 days ago
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I am for a category illegal,too.
for sites with mostly illegal downloads, such as th*pirate*ba*
And other sites for cracks etc.
Is there a category in that are so sites?
This sounds like a bad idea. "Hacker" & "warez" are two different things. For example, someone hacking on open source software to fix a security bug is different than someone distributing illegal "warez". An "illegal" category also sounds like a bad idea. Laws vary depending on where a person is located, I could picture sites getting tagged as illegal even though such a site would be legal in some other countries. An "illegal" category could never be as accurate as the other categories.
I Agree With This Too. There Really Needs To Be A Hacking/Warez Category. It Would Make Opendns Alot Better!!!
I agree, but it should really be called an Illegal category.
Would like to see hacking as its own category. A warez category would be good too.
Here why not make a custom catagory which only filters the sites you list. and maybe a wildcard list for things that you decide too, like *track*r or *hepi*ate*ay. and lets say m*ninov*
I think a category for malware infected sites would be great.
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